Comments on: Bug Tracking 101: Where TFS Blows It http://blog.componentoriented.com/2007/05/bug_tracking_101_where_tfs_blows_it/ The pursuit of the simplest software possible Mon, 23 Aug 2010 03:58:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc By: Luv Bug http://blog.componentoriented.com/2007/05/bug_tracking_101_where_tfs_blows_it/comment-page-1/#comment-576 Luv Bug Fri, 16 Jul 2010 11:37:43 +0000 #comment-576 Looking forward to that software. Looking forward to that software.

]]> By: D. Lambert http://blog.componentoriented.com/2007/05/bug_tracking_101_where_tfs_blows_it/comment-page-1/#comment-566 D. Lambert Fri, 02 Jul 2010 08:08:53 +0000 #comment-566 I’d love to post an update to this with more recent licensing info. Licensing of MS products, of course, has been pretty complicated for quite some time, of course, so if you’ve got specific information that shows that this is the case, please give me a shout. I tried googling this just now, and one of the links I turned up made it seem like this was still an issue for TFS 2005, so it’s quite possible that it changed for TFS 2008. I’d love to post an update to this with more recent licensing info. Licensing of MS products, of course, has been pretty complicated for quite some time, of course, so if you’ve got specific information that shows that this is the case, please give me a shout. I tried googling this just now, and one of the links I turned up made it seem like this was still an issue for TFS 2005, so it’s quite possible that it changed for TFS 2008.

]]> By: dlambert http://blog.componentoriented.com/2007/05/bug_tracking_101_where_tfs_blows_it/comment-page-1/#comment-558 dlambert Fri, 25 Jun 2010 20:56:56 +0000 #comment-558 I'd love to post an update to this with more recent licensing info. Licensing of MS products, of course, has been pretty complicated for quite some time, of course, so if you've got specific information that shows that this is the case, please give me a shout. I tried googling this just now, and <a href="http://www.windows-tech.info/4/daa6caedfd8edea6.php" rel="nofollow">one of the links I turned up</a> made it seem like this was still an issue for TFS 2005, so it's quite possible that it changed for TFS 2008. I’d love to post an update to this with more recent licensing info. Licensing of MS products, of course, has been pretty complicated for quite some time, of course, so if you’ve got specific information that shows that this is the case, please give me a shout. I tried googling this just now, and one of the links I turned up made it seem like this was still an issue for TFS 2005, so it’s quite possible that it changed for TFS 2008.

]]> By: Myemail http://blog.componentoriented.com/2007/05/bug_tracking_101_where_tfs_blows_it/comment-page-1/#comment-554 Myemail Tue, 15 Jun 2010 01:10:25 +0000 #comment-554 This post is old....but is incorrect.<br>Licensing always allowed anyone to log a bug w/o a license...as well as have read only access.<br>Further, you can log a bug w/o any software installed...and from any machine, using the Team Web Access portal (if your TFS Admin was smart enough to install it).<br>This has been available since TFS 2008 (maybe even late 2005).|<br><br>This alleviates both of your complaints. :) This post is old….but is incorrect.
Licensing always allowed anyone to log a bug w/o a license…as well as have read only access.
Further, you can log a bug w/o any software installed…and from any machine, using the Team Web Access portal (if your TFS Admin was smart enough to install it).
This has been available since TFS 2008 (maybe even late 2005).|

This alleviates both of your complaints. :)

]]> By: Aaron Engel http://blog.componentoriented.com/2007/05/bug_tracking_101_where_tfs_blows_it/comment-page-1/#comment-410 Aaron Engel Fri, 11 Dec 2009 21:04:02 +0000 #comment-410 Having used both, I actually prefer TFS with 2008. I love the integration with Excel and MS Project, and the ability to customize how work item tracking works (fields, workflow, etc.) Having used both, I actually prefer TFS with 2008. I love the integration with Excel and MS Project, and the ability to customize how work item tracking works (fields, workflow, etc.)

]]> By: Aaron Engel http://blog.componentoriented.com/2007/05/bug_tracking_101_where_tfs_blows_it/comment-page-1/#comment-389 Aaron Engel Fri, 11 Dec 2009 16:04:02 +0000 #comment-389 Having used both, I actually prefer TFS with 2008. I love the integration with Excel and MS Project, and the ability to customize how work item tracking works (fields, workflow, etc.) Having used both, I actually prefer TFS with 2008. I love the integration with Excel and MS Project, and the ability to customize how work item tracking works (fields, workflow, etc.)

]]> By: Anonymous http://blog.componentoriented.com/2007/05/bug_tracking_101_where_tfs_blows_it/comment-page-1/#comment-84 Anonymous Tue, 15 Jul 2008 08:49:39 +0000 #comment-84 Hey, that's great - I missed<br>Hey, that's great - I missed that update. Obviously, that's a welcome change. I sort of figured Microsoft would eventually come around and make TFS more usable. The core functionality and interoperability is a really compelling sell, which makes the stupid little issues all the more frustrating.<br><br>My #1 remaining gripe? You can't change a bug into a task (feature request), or vice-versa. It's really easy for someone to mis-report a feature request as a bug, and the fact that nobody can switch this type is pretty annoying.<br><br>Maybe next release, though, right?</br> Hey, that's great – I missed
Hey, that's great – I missed that update. Obviously, that's a welcome change. I sort of figured Microsoft would eventually come around and make TFS more usable. The core functionality and interoperability is a really compelling sell, which makes the stupid little issues all the more frustrating.

My #1 remaining gripe? You can't change a bug into a task (feature request), or vice-versa. It's really easy for someone to mis-report a feature request as a bug, and the fact that nobody can switch this type is pretty annoying.

Maybe next release, though, right?

]]> By: Anonymous http://blog.componentoriented.com/2007/05/bug_tracking_101_where_tfs_blows_it/comment-page-1/#comment-83 Anonymous Mon, 14 Jul 2008 16:29:12 +0000 #comment-83 I have been a QA Manager for<br>I have been a QA Manager for some time and your insight into bug tracking is dead on. However, I've found myself in a new company where TFS has so many benefits to our particular work that we cannot overlook it. So I have forced myself to adapt to using it for bug tracking - in order to take advantage of the integration. I have felt the same pain you wrote about... but 2008 has addressed two of your primary concerns:<br><br>MS bought TeamPlain and integrated it into the 2008 release. So now TFS has a built-in web client that offers all the functionality you need for interacting with WI through the web without needing Team Explorer.<br><br>Second, the licensing in 2008 was changed so that users who interact with WI do not need their own CAL. Here is a reference: http://blogs.msdn.com/adamga/archive/2007/11/20...> I have been a QA Manager for
I have been a QA Manager for some time and your insight into bug tracking is dead on. However, I've found myself in a new company where TFS has so many benefits to our particular work that we cannot overlook it. So I have forced myself to adapt to using it for bug tracking – in order to take advantage of the integration. I have felt the same pain you wrote about… but 2008 has addressed two of your primary concerns:

MS bought TeamPlain and integrated it into the 2008 release. So now TFS has a built-in web client that offers all the functionality you need for interacting with WI through the web without needing Team Explorer.

Second, the licensing in 2008 was changed so that users who interact with WI do not need their own CAL. Here is a reference: http://blogs.msdn.com/adamga/archive/2007/11/20…&gt;

]]> By: Anonymous http://blog.componentoriented.com/2007/05/bug_tracking_101_where_tfs_blows_it/comment-page-1/#comment-82 Anonymous Tue, 10 Jun 2008 13:49:21 +0000 #comment-82 thanks for that great ideas<br>thanks for that great ideas there....it is very useful</br> thanks for that great ideas
thanks for that great ideas there….it is very useful

]]> By: Anonymous http://blog.componentoriented.com/2007/05/bug_tracking_101_where_tfs_blows_it/comment-page-1/#comment-81 Anonymous Sat, 17 May 2008 14:24:59 +0000 #comment-81 thanks for the awesome post<br>thanks for the awesome post ..</br> thanks for the awesome post
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