Comments on: Reboot needed – really?? http://blog.componentoriented.com/2009/03/reboot-needed-really/ My thoughts on software development Mon, 08 Mar 2010 20:44:17 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc hourly 1 By: D. Lambert http://blog.componentoriented.com/2009/03/reboot-needed-really/comment-page-1/#comment-432 D. Lambert Tue, 23 Jun 2009 23:54:26 +0000 http://blog.componentoriented.com/?p=500#comment-432 That's really a fine question. As it turns out, I'm not an OS designer, but I can promise you that if I spent my days thinking about OS development, I'd have given this quite a bit of thought, because it's a pretty common problem, right? <br><br>I'd probably approach this problem by looking at what facilities already exist in the OS that might be able to help me. In Windows, you've got the Windows Volume Shadow Copy service that already manages old versions of files, so I'd probably look to see if there might be a way to leverage that capability. If you've got both the old and new versions of your DLLs, it wouldn't be a huge leap to map requests for those DLLs to either the old or the new file, depending on which one was loaded in the first place.<br><br>I'm sure that in practice, there are all sorts of complications to deal with, but I guess my point is that as a consumer, I'd rather have the OS guys thinking about OS problems like this, rather than finding new ways to make my windows dance when I press CTRL-ALT-BackSpace-Tab-F1. That's really a fine question. As it turns out, I'm not an OS designer, but I can promise you that if I spent my days thinking about OS development, I'd have given this quite a bit of thought, because it's a pretty common problem, right?

I'd probably approach this problem by looking at what facilities already exist in the OS that might be able to help me. In Windows, you've got the Windows Volume Shadow Copy service that already manages old versions of files, so I'd probably look to see if there might be a way to leverage that capability. If you've got both the old and new versions of your DLLs, it wouldn't be a huge leap to map requests for those DLLs to either the old or the new file, depending on which one was loaded in the first place.

I'm sure that in practice, there are all sorts of complications to deal with, but I guess my point is that as a consumer, I'd rather have the OS guys thinking about OS problems like this, rather than finding new ways to make my windows dance when I press CTRL-ALT-BackSpace-Tab-F1.

]]> By: D. Lambert http://blog.componentoriented.com/2009/03/reboot-needed-really/comment-page-1/#comment-286 D. Lambert Tue, 23 Jun 2009 19:54:26 +0000 http://blog.componentoriented.com/?p=500#comment-286 That's really a fine question. As it turns out, I'm not an OS designer, but I can promise you that if I spent my days thinking about OS development, I'd have given this quite a bit of thought, because it's a pretty common problem, right? <br><br>I'd probably approach this problem by looking at what facilities already exist in the OS that might be able to help me. In Windows, you've got the Windows Volume Shadow Copy service that already manages old versions of files, so I'd probably look to see if there might be a way to leverage that capability. If you've got both the old and new versions of your DLLs, it wouldn't be a huge leap to map requests for those DLLs to either the old or the new file, depending on which one was loaded in the first place.<br><br>I'm sure that in practice, there are all sorts of complications to deal with, but I guess my point is that as a consumer, I'd rather have the OS guys thinking about OS problems like this, rather than finding new ways to make my windows dance when I press CTRL-ALT-BackSpace-Tab-F1. That's really a fine question. As it turns out, I'm not an OS designer, but I can promise you that if I spent my days thinking about OS development, I'd have given this quite a bit of thought, because it's a pretty common problem, right?

I'd probably approach this problem by looking at what facilities already exist in the OS that might be able to help me. In Windows, you've got the Windows Volume Shadow Copy service that already manages old versions of files, so I'd probably look to see if there might be a way to leverage that capability. If you've got both the old and new versions of your DLLs, it wouldn't be a huge leap to map requests for those DLLs to either the old or the new file, depending on which one was loaded in the first place.

I'm sure that in practice, there are all sorts of complications to deal with, but I guess my point is that as a consumer, I'd rather have the OS guys thinking about OS problems like this, rather than finding new ways to make my windows dance when I press CTRL-ALT-BackSpace-Tab-F1.

]]> By: ajk http://blog.componentoriented.com/2009/03/reboot-needed-really/comment-page-1/#comment-276 ajk Sun, 31 May 2009 17:15:03 +0000 http://blog.componentoriented.com/?p=500#comment-276 Maybe you have an answer how to "hot" replace a loaded DLL in memory and used by more than one application without restarting the applications that have it loaded? Any hints? Maybe you have an answer how to “hot” replace a loaded DLL in memory and used by more than one application without restarting the applications that have it loaded? Any hints?

]]> By: D. Lambert http://blog.componentoriented.com/2009/03/reboot-needed-really/comment-page-1/#comment-215 D. Lambert Wed, 11 Mar 2009 20:49:30 +0000 http://blog.componentoriented.com/?p=500#comment-215 I'd love to. The PC's are locked down, though, and the folks who've locked them don't seem to mind sacrificing some of my time in order to be compliant. Still, that really just forestalls the problem. Eventually, you're either not updated (vulnerable), or you're going to have to reboot. I'd love to. The PC's are locked down, though, and the folks who've locked them don't seem to mind sacrificing some of my time in order to be compliant. Still, that really just forestalls the problem. Eventually, you're either not updated (vulnerable), or you're going to have to reboot.

]]> By: Rick http://blog.componentoriented.com/2009/03/reboot-needed-really/comment-page-1/#comment-214 Rick Wed, 11 Mar 2009 20:42:46 +0000 http://blog.componentoriented.com/?p=500#comment-214 Can't you just set the auto updater to not auto-update? Can't you just set the auto updater to not auto-update?

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